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Will Childless Lovers of Our World be Able to Have a Family in Summerland?

 

 

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Editor's prefatory comments:

The maturing spiritual person will have experienced "the joy" issuing from the depths of one's being.

In receipt of this most important and foundational mystical experience, we want to share it with others; we want them to have it, too.

In the grand scheme of things, this is the primary reason why Mother-Father God brought the universe, and eventually us, into existence.

And in the realm of authentic romantic love, it is the underlying reason why maturing lovers desire to have children. These "bundles of joy" not only represent the lovers' joy in manifest form but allow the couple to share what they've been blessed to receive, that which bursts in their hearts, and to pass it on.

All joyful parents, or Parents, think this way. (See more discussion on the "Summerland 1-Minute" page.)

 

 

 

 

many afterlife reports, especially those issuing from the lower-levels of the next world, assert that no children are born over there; but then, many of those residing in the initial ports-of-entry also think that reincarnation is true

 

Granted, it is well established that in Summerland no offspring are born of "blood" and animal spirits. And yet, for reasons I shall soon discuss, I've come to see that an absolute prohibition against securing one's own children could not be true.

My intuitions have found support. After some years of considering this problem I came across the three following testimonies from well-respected names in afterlife research:

 

"behold a mystery - you will meet your true mate and children in Summerland"

an excerpt from the Summerland lectures, "Death And The Afterlife," by Andrew Jackson Davis:

"[Davis reports that, via psychic vision, he witnessed a place in Summerland] inhabited by young persons from the earth who died as orphans. [There] they are introduced to those who are their parents in spirit, but of whom they were not always physiologically born on earth. In this, behold a mystery…

"blood-and-passion cannot conceive real children"

"I found, to my astonishment, that there were on earth certain women and men with families who have never yet known maternity or paternity! I found that real mothers conceive with the whole life and love of the heart, and that real fathers produce from the vitalic energies and magnetisms of the whole brain; and that no blood-and-passion relations amount to anything to the progenitors beyond the tomb. So, as a consequence, it is seen that all the offspring of your [marriages of this world, united by mere religion and temporal law], your blood-and-passion, are likely to be strangers to you, and the real children of others.

"And the legalized marriage, unless it coronate the spiritual fact [of Twin Soul love], melts like all temporary error at the door of the tomb. Your offspring, unless they be of and from your spirit, and therefore from God, are only physiological productions, so far as you are concerned—for they find their true parents in other homes in the eternal heavens. Thus, those [bereft of true family love] in this world ... meet both their true mates and their spirit-families [that is, their true children, in Summerland]."

Editor’s note: The following comments are being written approximately three years after the above posting. Recently, as I’ve considered the implications of Davis’ revelation, I see some new things. My initial reading of his testimony helped me to perceive that we might have children waiting for us in a future world, but – because my focus was on children when I first read the above – I failed to see that we also might have our “real parents” coming, as well!

Let’s look at Davis’ report again and carefully consider:

"there were on earth certain women and men with families who have never yet known maternity or paternity"

It seems that some, maybe not all, children born to “John and Mary” are not really their children, not in a spiritual, final-meaning sense. Davis is saying that these John-and-Mary couples have never yet had children in a manner that reflects ultimate reality.

these “offspring of your [marriages of this world, united by mere religion and temporal law], your blood-and-passion, are likely to be strangers to you, and the real children of others”

Consider the Dino and Annie Nanji Case (see below). When she crossed over, she found three children waiting for her! But she and Dino had not been able to have children during their earth-time, and so, where did these children – who considered themselves the children of Dino and Annie – where did they come from? Well, according to Davis, it seems that they’d been born into a John-and-Mary family of this world, and then, having died young, went to the next life but with a directive to find their “real” spiritual parents, Dino and Annie!

“your offspring, unless they be of and from your spirit, and therefore from God, are only physiological productions, so far as you are concerned—for they find their true parents in other homes in the eternal heavens”

Again, the children waiting in Summerland for Annie would seem to be poster-children for this statement of Davis. The three children were drawn like a magnet to their “real parents”, Dino and Annie!

But wait, there’s something else here!

For those of us who wish for children with a true mate, a Twin Soul, we might read Davis’ words and readily lock onto the part about receiving children in the future. But what about us, you and me? We were once part of an earth-family. Do we, ourselves, have “real parents” waiting in the wings for us? Have they been our unseen guardians all these years? Were they the ones who might have even crafted some of the details of our lives in a pre-birth planning session? Indeed, as Davis, exclaims, “behold, a mystery”!

“thus, those [bereft of true family love] in this world ... meet both their true mates and their spirit-families [that is, their true children, in Summerland]"

When I wrote the bracketed insertions a few years ago, I interpreted “spirit-families” to mean “you will find your real, spiritually-generated children in Summerland.” But there can be no family without parents, and now I’m wondering if Davis also meant that, we, ourselves, might find our “real parents” when we cross over!

This is such a wonderful thought, and think of the “isomorphism” in play here. Isomorphism means “equal form,” and look at what might be a one-to-one correspondence. On the “Summerland 1-Minute” page I offered lengthy discussion featuring the intentions of Mother-Father God to ever remain in the “child-rearing business,” meaning, I believe it to be unthinkable that the Divine Parent(s) would ever opt out of providing the gift of eternal life to new sons and daughters in “the family.” But what about Spirit Guides, who might also be Twin Soul lovers, who want children of their own? Is it not feasible that some of these might arrange for “their” children to be born into a John-and-Mary union on the Earth, with the intention of receiving these children as their own later on?

It’s quite a proposition. And you know what? Just as Mother-Father God will very likely continue on and on offering the gift of life, a Spirit-Guide couple, as they are eternal beings, might continue to have and raise children, periodically, over the coming unending ages of time. Why would you not want to? What could be more satisfying, offering more joy, than to bring into being children, helping them mature, that they might share the life of joy that the Twin-Soul parents revel in?

 

 

a little girl, who never appeared in the flesh on Earth, is waiting for her parents in Summerland 

an excerpt from Beyond Human Personality, by F.W. Myers, testimony from the afterlife via psychic-medium:

The Dream-Child

"A certain mother longed for a daughter. Sons were born to her, but the little girl she desired so much never appeared in the flesh. Yet she is waiting for her mother in the world beyond death, for her soul has, on two or three occasions, made the attempt to be born but failed in each instance. There is a cogent reason for this failure. The soul of the daughter may not meet the mother in full conscious knowledge until after the latter's death... I might call this daughter the 'dream child.'

"She has a lovely soul and if she had been born into this present life would have made a paradise for her mother. Now during this earth life, owing to the fact that this particular heart's desire of hers was not granted, the mother has learned much and developed spiritually. The little daughter was bound to absorb her attention, leading her to become selfish, and only occupied with the pleasure of motherhood. For the child would have made radiant all her days. Such happiness belongs, as a rule, to the first heaven-world ... and there she will, in due course, experience such joy... she will meet this daughter and be so overjoyed at seeing her and having her companionship that the separation from her sons, caused by death, will not inflict the suffering that might otherwise have been her portion.

"So there is a providence in the fact that this child has never been given into her charge during her earth life. After death the mother will obtain her longing; a quiet, lovely, country place where her family live and come and go; a nursery where she finds this little daughter who fulfills the dream, is the dream of her imagination, the one she proudly cherishes and shows to her own brothers and sisters and to her parents; the pretty little birdlike thing with whom she plays baby games and thus fulfills her own nature, the child to whom she loves to give: the playmate she dresses up and adorns: to her that treasure beyond other treasures; a small girl, dainty, exquisite, needing all her protection and love.

"Therefore, the mother's true happiness lies in the world beyond death. Deep down she already knows this little daughter because they belong to the same group-soul, and because she has been with the child when she was in deep slumber. But the inexorable supernal law forbids her to bring the memory back to her conscious life, she bears only the ache of parting from the child and this ache is expressed in a vague dissatisfaction; a kind of weariness or feeling of disappointment which she cannot understand and attributes to all but the true cause. After death her memory of these meetings with her daughter will be recaptured by her soul, and so they will meet as adoring mother and child.

"But you must not assume that the many years of earth-time affect this child. In the Hereafter there exists a subjective time that may run according to the character of the souls who make the varying patterns within the Group. Appearance and desire will harmonise. At the time of the mother's death and entry into the new life, the daughter will have reached that lovely age when the child begins to talk brokenly, to make brave expeditions; half crawling, half walking; across the vast expanse of nursery floor. All the enchantment of the great, big world for the slowly blossoming intelligence will be perceived by the mother when she comes over here: she will find all that she has most desired on earth in the Lotus Flower Paradise which lies beyond tawdry death, beyond the tomb.

"You may say that this picture I have drawn of a mother's happiness and heaven sounds too good to be true. But bear in mind that Fate presents a debit and credit account. The mother, in this case, has known a great deal of unhappiness while on Earth - troubles and disappointments that torment and take the color out of life. So, before she chooses to go farther along the road to immortality, her heart's desire is granted and she reaps the full harvest from the grain sown with care and toil and sometimes pain in that terrestrial life of hers...

"I should like to draw your attention to my repeated statements that imagination has extraordinary creative force in some instances, and you must not think it essential that to be an artist it is necessary to paint pictures, or write poems, or compose music. This mother is essentially an artist and such an artist may make a poem of life. If she be a mother she may desire to make a poem of childhood for a small daughter. Pray remember always that, however you are placed, you can make an art of living and thus enrich the lives of those who are of your immediate circle."

 

 

 

I know that it might sound more than
a little crazy, but I believe...
I knew I loved you before I met you
I think I dreamed you into life
I knew I loved you before I met you
I have been waiting all my life 

 

 the most convincing evidence of all

 

The following point of evidence concerning the receipt of children in Summerland is weightiest by far. First, let's consider the source, the respected direct-voice medium, Leslie Flint:

 

 Leslie Flint, circa. 1960

 

"I think I can safely say that I am the most tested medium this country has ever produced... I have been boxed up, tied up, sealed up, gagged, bound and held, and still the voices have come to speak their message of life eternal."   
 
 
 

READ MORE about Leslie Flint and the 500 tape-recordings, messages from persons on the other side. 

 

Michael Tymn conducted an interview with an afterlife researcher. Part of the discussion addressed the question, what is the most evidential information for post-mortem survival?

"If you were asked to pick three cases in annals of survival research, which ones would you choose [as most evidential]? Why?"

“Firstly, the Annie Nanji tapes from the Leslie Flint physical mediumship séances. This incidence was never widely publicized, yet it remains hard evidence of survival that anybody can listen to online.

"In essence, an Indian doctor communicated via direct voice with his deceased wife, Annie, over the course of a decade. They were able to carry on their relationship, discussing tiny details of each other’s lives which make the possibility of fraud almost non-existent.”

I have reviewed these taped discussions between the doctor and his wife on the other side, and Michael is correct, the "detail" is excruciatingly fine and intricate. She comments on minutia of his life, such as the arrangement of his bed-covering, what he did on his walk in the park, or what he has in his pockets. There are scores and scores of these smallest of details, of interest only to this couple, and yet, by these factoids themselves, almost inadvertently, we are given some of the best evidence of survival of consciousness available anywhere.

LISTEN TO the Annie Nanji tapes.

children born not of blood and biology but of love and spirit

Of particular interest to our purpose, however, is the recording of November 18, 1982, second to last on the Nanji recording list.

Throughout the various taped discussions over the years, Annie had mentioned their children, with her in Summerland. Earlier, however, she had not commented concerning how this had come to be -- did they die of illness or in some accident?

where did the Nanji kids come from

But in the November 18, 1982 recording she clarifies and says this:

It was "not possible for us to have children" while we lived together on Earth. But the children that are with me now, she said, were not born of blood and biological impetus but of "love and spirit."

READ MORE of the Nanji case, introduced as item #41 on the "afterlife" page 

 

 

"your children come through you but are not of you"

Notice Jackson Davis' provocative assertion that some with families awaiting them in Summerland have never been mothers and fathers! that, true mothers conceive with a heart of authentic love, while true fathers produce offspring with a focused intellect. All this echoes Gibran with his "your children come through you but are not of you!"

Was Davis correct to assert that the true "virginity is of the soul," and not of the body, after all? Annie Nanji confirms the same, that her children in Summerland were born of "spirit and love."

In a coming world where "thoughts are things," would it not be possible, in some sense, that lovers might dream their children into existence?

To my mind, one thing is clear - this issue of lovers' grief concerning childlessness must be addressed, lest their spiritual growth stultify in sorrows - without this redressing of injustice against one's constitutional sensibilities one would always be looking back to Earth as the "good old days" when having children was possible.

This kind of wistfulness and melancholy, as settled state of mind, might overthrow one's spirituality in Summerland. There must be an answer to this dilemma as untold millions have been afflicted by such. Our prescient Guides and Advisors would not have allowed this great question, and cause for sorrow, to remain unanswered.

 

a mind preoccupied with anxieties cannot genuinely devote itself to God... no power to pray...

You may recall the above caption as the heartfelt words of the romantic Heloise. She well captures a sense of the need for almost every new citizen of Summerland to find emotional healing before moving on to greater spirituality. It is my contention that... 
 
Certain kinds of loss are so compelling; so fraught with despair and disillusionment; so devastating to primal need and to what should have been; so commanding of one's attention and deepest affections; so insistent and bordering on the obsessive, that injured hearts will not allow any beguilement, cajoling, any artifice of mere words, empty platitudes, or pseudo-spiritual talk, to distract them from that most pressing cold reality.
 
In the domain of romance, Randall and French speak of an astral sub-world wherein dwell once-bereft lovers. As part of their healing from the sufferings of this world it is said that, as long as they need to, they will do little but "cling to each other."
 
READ MORE of these healing-worlds, which I have called "holodeck worlds"
 
 
The emotional healing for true romantics - that is, those experiencing the authentic, Twin-Soul love - will not be effected, in many cases, without squarely facing the desire for children, which is also part of their true love.
 

 and he's not even sorry

 

fruit of their bodies, or fruit of their spirits

There is a fourth afterlife testimony by Claire Heartsong, an author somewhat unknown to me; nevertheless, her report is well in-line with the general sentiment expressed by Jackson Davis, Myers, and Nanji, and so I will offer it here as ancillary material. 

She speaks of a "light conception," that of lovers conceiving children not so much as the fruit of their bodies but as the fruit of their spirits.

Apparently, in such process, each parent would supply not sperm or ovum but a kind of light injection of one's own spiritual essence. The resulting child, far more than mere DNA-based progeneration, would represent the parents on a soul level.

This is a very beautiful and powerful concept. We all know examples from this world concerning children who either supersede or badly lag the essential nature of their parents. In these cases, can we truly say that these offspring are the fruit of their parents in terms of core humanity and personhood?

There appears to be a higher order of this process.

 

 

through us, not from us

  • Kahlil Gibran: "Your children are not your children... They come through you but not from you... they belong not to you."

 

But what if they could come from us, and not just through us?

While opportunities will abound to raise foster children in Summerland, for many couples, this noble service will not heal the giant hole in their hearts concerning not having had children of their own.

 

how primitive

Mere biology can produce a child that resembles the physical exterior of parents. But as Commander Spock used to say, "how primitive" - how much is this externality worth in a world where people can manifest any external appearance, and any age, that they so choose?

The Summerland testimonies speak of mere biological procreation as passé in their land. Probably so. It would be that way.

But what if lovers had the opportunity to receive, beyond biology, an even greater gift? What if a child could represent, on a much deeper level, their love and union? a child to reflect the finest spirit-attributes of each parent; a true chip-off-the-old-block in a real sense; a child that would come from and not just through the parents.

Well, creating a soul "in the image" of Parents is not altogether unheard of in our Family, isn't it?

 it's alright, it was just your practice-turn

 

Thwarted lovers of this world, with greatest sorrow, lament that the sweetest joys of having children with a true mate have passed them by. And now, in their grief of loss, they wonder how they shall ever be made whole. They fret that, no matter how wonderful Summerland is, it could never fill the gaping space in their hearts; nothing, they say, could replace that lost "real life" of family and children that is offered, they assume, only on the Earth-plane! - all downhill from here, they cry, the best blessings are behind us; nothing on the horizon to lift our despondent hearts.

Is this the way Eternal Life works? 

Has any good thing really passed us by? shall it ever? If so, what kind of neutered and hollow blessing would heaven be?

Is the old scripture, "eye hath not seen" just a cosmic joke?

What sense shall we ascribe to the apostle John's words, "God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; there shall be no more ... sorrow, crying, or pain ... the former things are passed away ... all things are made new."

These are grand statements but, as the British say, "will butter no parsnips" without actual and substantive restitution. In other words, those who grieve for children will not be made whole without the receipt of absolutely real children. 

 

Marriage of their spirits to produce fruit of their spirits?

In The Wedding Song the union of Twin lovers is referred to as "a marriage of spirits." Why should we consider it an impossible event, in an ideal world, that this literal spiritual union might produce children as literal representations of their spirits?

If traumatized lovers' hearts could understand, and accept, that children in the new realm were to come from them, and not just through them, then they might begin to agree with themselves, and with their own wounded hearts, that they, in fact, had lost nothing of import while on their disastrous trip to the Earth.

 

the real perfectly normal life: the wonderful ifs accumulate

What if the "real life" is yet to come? (might better gifts always be ahead of us?) What if this present Earth-life is the artificial, the "practice turn," the rough draft, the throw-away copy?

What if our current reality will one day seem to us as something puerile and childish, as insubstantial as a play performed by kindergarten children, with their ill-fitting costumes, paper hats, and wooden swords and with adult-onlookers mechanically and dutifully clapping?

What if the apostle John's phrase regarding this world "passing away" and Solomon's words "all is vanity (temporary, like a vapor)" signify a greater ephemerality than we have known?

What if it's really true, in a coming future life, that the sense of terrible loss of this world will yet melt completely away as do the imposing frozen snowbanks in a North Dakota spring thaw? - an assessment of loss, even by its once-victims, to be deemed as insignificant, not worth a moment's further thought; as inconsequential as that kindergarten play, utterly swallowed up by the overwhelming transcendence, the permanence, and the infinitely greater blessings of a New Reality.

  • What if one's true children, the true reflection of Twin lovers' passion, are to be the children of one's own eternal essence? What if the true marriage is a marriage of the spirit, of kindred souls, and not merely and primarily a union of bodies? What if all these, in a coming world and time, shall yet constitute the true family, the true domestic concourse, the true fruit of lovers' fervency, the true "perfectly normal life"?

What if all these gifts (think of them as wedding gifts from Mother-Father God and the Spirit Guides) await us in another, better realm (shall a better one always beckon us?); await every battered but hopeful lover's heart; those Two hearts that beat as One, as One Person and One Soul.

Yes... what if?

Churchill, during war time, once spoke of the "terrible ifs" accumulating, but, for us, it is the wonderful ifs.

 

 

 

Editor's last word:

The four afterlife reports featured above speak of different ways by which children might be received in the coming world. However, one principle begins to emerge: these scions will not issue as fruit of bodies but of a deeper essence.

While I've already alluded to the following, does this principle not take us closer to an understanding of "made in the image," whereby we mirror God's truest nature? There's something very profound embedded here, and I think we are meant to experience these "soul children" as cosmic teaching-aid revealing more of what it means to be a son or daughter of God.

See the picture coming into view:

Twin-Souls, the sacred male and female "made in the image," engendering children as reflection of their deepest persons - is this not microcosm of Ultimate Reality? -- of Mother-Father God engendering us?

 

 

postscript:

I'd finished much of this article some time ago, but, since then, I've been given more on this subject.

 

What if we could have the best of both worlds, children 'through' us and 'from' us?

If you'd like to enjoy a more complete understanding of the following discussion, then I must give you a homework assignment. Please read How We'll Gain Healing From The Traumas Of This World.

Allow me to offer a very condensed explanation, one that you will add to your assigned readings, along with all that we've considered on this page:

(1) "Blood and passion" alone cannot produce children which might match our essential soul-essence.

(2) We learn from respected afterlife-teachers that one's "real" children, those mirroring soul-essence, wait for us on the other side - not necessarily for everyone, but for those who desire this blessing.

(3) In a world "one step beyond" Summerland we have the ability not only to create environment by fiat, but we're also empowered to manifest and present ourselves at any biological age.

 

  • The Astral Plane: Its Scenery, Inhabitants, and Phenomena (1900), by C.W. Leadbeater: “The astral region which I am to attempt to describe … has often been called the realm of illusion, not that it is itself any more illusory than the physical world [Earth], but because of the extreme unreliability of the impressions brought back from it by the untrained seer. This is to be accounted for mainly by … remarkable characteristics of the astral world; first, that many of its inhabitants have a marvelous power of changing their forms with Protean rapidity, and also of casting practically unlimited glamour over those with whom they choose to sport…” [Proteus, a Greek god, son of Poseidon, called the "Old Man of the Sea" by Homer, said to have the power of "elusive sea change", reflecting the rapid and constantly changing nature of water.]

 

(4) These worlds created by thought - which are just as real and solid as the Earth-world - allow us to simulate events which caused us loss and grief, but, this time, we can craft a new ending; thereby, "overwriting" past traumas with a happy conclusion.

(5) As we "manifest and present ourselves" according to our choice, even as children if we so desire, we can actually simulate "growing up" in a new world - if this is what one wants to do, especially, with a lover.

Let's put these disparate items together now and see what it can do for us regarding the issue of having children in the next worlds.

Allow us to assume that you do have soul-children waiting for you on the other side; but, let's also say that you want the "full package" of family life. You and your beloved want to experience what it's like to be pregnant and go "full term," and not have a stork deliver them.

Even though "blood and biology" does not conceive children in Summerland, it would be possible to simulate a pregnancy, but with a real child, such that, it will all look and feel exactly as if it were the customary way.

Instead of collecting one's soul-children at a more advanced age, let's say, when they're age 2 or 4, it should be possible for these children, as we said, to "manifest and present" themselves at any age. This being the case, you could arrange for a child to manifest as a fetus within a mother's womb. This would not be "role playing" as she would, in fact, be the mother, a "soul-mother." But, if we can simulate "growing up" in these new worlds -- and we know that this is possible because a Spirit Guide said this is an option for us if we'd like to recreate or simulate our childhood earth-experiences -- then it would also be possible to simulate the growing and developing of the body within the female womb.  

This process of simulation mirrors the Earth-experience more than we might realize. The spirits of biological children have an existence prior to the Earth-world. They are not created, as such, in their spirit essence, within the womb. (See the introductory comments in the "Prometheus" book.) This prior-existence element parallels quite well, I think, our proposed scenario in a future world, in that, the simulated fetus would have had an existence prior to the simulated life in the womb.

what if we could have it both ways

This means that children could come "through" us and "from" us - we could have it both ways. It would be very real to us.

After this simulated pregnancy - which, I suggest, is no more "simulated" than that of the Earth, as these babes also came from another world - it is an easy step for these little ones to also "simulate" growing up for 18 years with you in a real life, a real family life, with all the trimmings, which, as the afterlife reports inform us, conform "to the finest detail" of all that we know to be good.

Yes, truly, the wonderful ifs accumulate.

 

Editor's note: Compare the above discussion with this note from "The Wedding Song" Prologue page. What if the sending of "halves to two separate mothers" is arranged by Senior Parent-Guides?

The following is channeled, via automatic writing, from the other side, published in “Claude’s Second Book,” by L. Kelway-Bamber:

“… when the ‘drop’ of God-force that makes the spirit of man separates from God and comes to the [Earth] world, it divides into halves and goes to two separate mothers, and thus a boy and girl are always born from each ‘drop.’ In fact, on the Earth plane things are generally constituted with a ‘counterpart,’ an opposite; they are male and female, positive and negative. The union of these creates the proper balance and produces something. The ‘bit of God’ in man is ‘im-’, or rather, ‘un’-personal; it is sent to become personal, and to so develop... It is a ‘bit of [God-]life’ [which comes to the Earth] but has no individuality — that it has to grow and develop here.”

Carlyle Petersilea, in his “Letters From The Spirit World,” offers channeled information from the other side confirming the above assertion of the “germ” of Twin souls dividing and being born to separate mothers and fathers.

Editor’s note: The process by which Twin Souls are created is shrouded in mystery. It seems to be orchestrated on a much higher level of "management" than enjoyed or known of by message-givers in Summerland. Different reports explain it variously, but often with the common theme of a single “God-cell” dividing into the female and male Twins. We are led to wonder if the Earth-world cell division relating to physical organisms might serve as metaphor of the grand celestial coming-into-being of Twins.

 

a most unusual rescue from the dark realms

Editor’s note: In the article on Clarice and Frederick, a report of one rescued from the Dark Realms, we find the service-mission under the direction of a old man named Cushna, aided by a young girl, Zisvené. Here is an excerpt, a scene concerning the actual moment of deliverance:

“Stand back! Stand back!” Clarice cried in wild alarm. “For when the fires of this memory blaze up, I am aflame with fury. Don’t let me reach you, for every tortured nerve of my body cries out for revenge!”

“I think we had better leave her,” suggested Cushna.

“Not just yet, Daddie,” Zisvené pleaded. “I am sure she will be persuaded presently.” Editor's note: We discover that Zisvené is the daughter of Spirit-Guide Cushna.

Now, a missionary team of a Senior Spirit Guide flanked by a young protégé is not that unusual over there. Even the detail that she is the daughter of the Guide does not necessarily break our stride.

However, our attention is arrested severely as we learn more. Zisvené is a mortal girl on the Earth who comes over to Summerland during her sleep time in order to live a life of service there. This is a little out of the norm but, by itself, maybe not so very unusual. However, her reference to Cushna as her dad gets us to ponder.

Well, we reason, it seems that Cushna had a daughter on the Earth not so long ago, before he transitioned, and now they work together. But not so fast. Elsewhere, in the first book of this trilogy, "Through The Mists" - channeled by Robert James Lees, psychic who investigated Jack the Ripper - we find Cushna's friend describing him:

prior to the pyramids

“He scarcely looks old enough, does he? But that is by no means due to his lack of years, it must rather be ascribed to the eternal youth we enjoy [here in Summerland]… He lived in the early days of Egypt. I think it was prior to the building of the pyramids.”

Cushna is 10,000 years old.

What does this mean? We can’t be certain; however, putting together the pieces of the puzzle, which we’ve reviewed on this page, maybe we can know what’s going on here.

Further, Zisvené is no ordinary helper. She’s a specialist in dark-realm rescue situations. They called her in on this difficult case – because she was the best, not due to considerations of nepotism.

In the third book, "The Gate Of Heaven," we learn this of her background:

“Zisvené’s is a most exceptional case, I can assure you. She was [that is, before entering her service work] an earnest and most indefatigable searcher after truth. Not being able to satisfy herself on theological husks and superficially accepted dogmas … she pressed forward, assured that the living bread [of truth] for which her soul hungered was to be found somewhere… She prayed for guidance, and, in response, found her way across the frontier, and now she spends almost the whole of her sleep-life in mission work with us…  Zisvené is a bird of frequent passage to and fro, only present with us while the body sleeps. She is a rara avis [rare bird] in that respect; in fact, [though many or most visit Summerland during sleep] so far as I know, she is unique.”

a reputation, well known, over there

Though still a mortal on the Earth, Zisvené had already developed a reputation, was somewhat widely known, on the other side for her success in difficult rescue missions:

"While hoping that I might be able to be of assistance to [Clarice], I heard of the work that Zisvené is doing in the sleep-life…"

new Marvel super-hero

These are the "celebrities" in the "real world." She'd earned a stellar record of being able to convince hard-core cases in the Dark Realms to repent and enter Summerland:

 “Zisvené had already rendered good service to one even in a lower condition”; and, “Zisvené had already displayed something of a genius for surmounting [great problems in this service work, where others had failed]."

It was generally recognized that her ability to overcome the defenses of those incapacitated by rage and hatred was due to her exceptional spirit of compassion:

 "… he was confident that, in her eagerness to lift up the fallen, she would be glad to assist me in my endeavour [to rescue Clarice]."

Some will suggest that the connection between this father and daughter is to be explained by reincarnation. Those close to the situation explicitly deny this. Robert James Lees quotes a Guide in Summerland:

only those lacking a depth of research believe in reincarnation

"I have been unable to meet with [even] one holding the theory of rebirth to be true… The origin of the idea is to be found in savage superstition…baseless… at variance with the law, love and purpose of God…

"My conclusion is that serious and deep research is required before one will see that reincarnation is false. Superficial study does lend great credence to it, and as a result, many whose research is not sufficiently deep are convinced of its veracity."

Is not all this both wonderful and facinating? How is it that this mortal girl – still on the Earth – should already be so competent in her service work?

How can these things happen?

Are we looking at a prime example here of a “chip off the old block”?

Is she Cushna’s daughter in terms of “from” him if not “through” him?

Does she represent the finest attributes, the soul attributes, of this ancient leading Spirit Guide?

Zisvené, an 'old soul'?

Special note: Among those who believe in reincarnation, a morally advanced person is often called an “old soul,” meaning, she’s been here before and has evolved through experience of many lives. But this is an incorrect view. See my 100short articles reviewing the error, and fraud, of “R”.

However, as I consider the case of Zisvené and her advanced service abilities, it seems that there must be a reason for her “fast start.” I’d like to put forward the concept that some, many (all?) of the morally evolved on planet Earth could very well be the spirit children of advanced Spirit Guides.

How does all this work? We have many questions and cannot know very much right now, but the totality of the evidence, to my way of thinking, indicates that this proposition might be true.

We know from many reports that each soul has the same essential potential; each one of us might yet rise to the highest heights of spiritual development, over time. See the “fairness” article.

All this acknowledged, there are those who seem to be, or are obviously, more advanced right now. And if the cause has something to do with Spirit-Guide parentage, how is this advanced-level “influence” and “quick start” transmitted? I don’t know. We’ll have to wait for the details.

 

 

‘my sister, my spouse’

Song Of Solomon, 4:10: “How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse; how much better is thy love than wine, and the smell of thine ointments than all spices.” (KJV)

As I produced the above comments, I was suddenly taken by the memory of a scripture not reviewed for many years. The writer of the Song refers to his beloved as “my sister, my spouse.” He may have had his own reasons for such nomenclature but, strangely, if Twin Souls derive from a single “cell” of God, then, on a cosmic level, they constitute, to each other, a kind of brother and sister. I believe that when we finally gain the full truth of these matters, we shall be more than a little astounded concerning how things truly work in the universe.

 

Gaining a balanced perspective, a sense of proportion, concerning family and children: Will we all be together again in heaven?

In the book "Mary Anne Carew” we are given channeled information via the mediumship of Carlyle Petersilea (1844-1903). The author, an accomplished American concert pianist, developed psychic abilities later in life. Mary, Carlyle's mother, offered her testimony from the other side.

Among the many discussions, one had become most pressing on Mary’s mind. She’d crossed over at approximately age 30, leaving her husband Franz to care for three young children. On Mary’s side, one comfort for her, was the company of her three other children which had already transitioned. Distraught and anxious, for many years during her initial time in Summerland, Mary yearned to make contact with her remaining family on Earth. What she really wanted was for the whole family to be together again in heaven.

these children will want their own lives, their own families, and their own loves

Finally, availing herself of a better view from wiser heads, she began to free herself from illusion and see things in a more realistic way. It was pointed out to her that, by the time all family members on Earth found their way to the afterlife, 70 or 80 years might pass. During that lengthy period, both the children on Earth and the ones in Summerland would have found their own mates, with children, and grandchildren, of their own. And as for Franz, needing the support of a wife to care for the little children, he in fact had remarried, now had a new wife, and they together had more children of their own.

For a long time, Mary's pressing maternal instincts had been unwilling to face this reality as her desire for “home and hearth,” “Christmas mornings for tots,” and the “white picket fence” loomed so vividly in her mind.

the family institution, by and large, is for the earth, not for time and eternity

However, with a wider and more complete perspective, and with the advice of Spirit Guides near her, she began to accept that the family institution, by and large, is for the Earth world, and not for time and eternity.

It’s not that anyone will be barred from visiting parents or children, it’s just that, parental love is merely formative and preparatory support, and not a ruling factor in the eternities to come; and many of these ad hoc relationships of the Earth, will drift away into a status as something less than vital and commanding.

We were made to live and love with a particular mate, a Twin Soul lover, and this romantic union, and nothing else, constitutes one’s ultimate reality.

 

 

dream communication with unborn children

Elenchus. I feel that I should offer testimony about something very unusual that happened to me. It’s about us. It happened almost 25 years ago, when we were first beginning to share experiences on WG. However, it was so jarring to me, so invasive, but so real, that I couldn’t bear to talk about until now.

Kairissi. Was it a mystical experience?

E. I suppose it could be called that. But, to offer more detail, it was a dream communication. Now, most dreams are just ego images during sleep, not much different than when we’re awake, and they fade right away. But there’s another kind of dream that’s not really a dream at all but a visitation. These special dreams stay with you, for years and years, are very vivid, and you never get over them.

K. Did a relative appear to you in a dream?

E. It was more than that. I think our future daughter came to me. I think I even know her name.

K. (silence)

E. In the above discussions we learned of Jackson Davis’ teachings on children who might be waiting for us on the other side. And the best in this category is the Nanjis’ experience, with three children meeting her when she crossed over. They couldn’t have kids in this world, but there they were, all waiting for her, little live wires, all clamoring for attention. And I think that we, too, have a baby waiting for us over there.

K. (sighing) This is very overwhelming.

E. I know… that’s why I couldn’t even talk about it for 25 years… but it’s so real in my mind, like it was a few hours ago.

K. (softly) Tell me what happened.

E. In the dream, I'm sitting in a living room, in an easy-chair, I think there's a fireplace. I’m reading something. And there’s a wee little girl crawling and playing with toys on the carpet in front of me. I can still see her frilly little baby pants. She’s two or three, old enough to speak a bit. And now she’s crawling toward me, like on a mission...

K. (smiling) On a mission. That's cute.

E. Yeah. And very soon she's grabbing hold of my pant-leg and begins to pull herself up, and then standing beside me, clinging, but also continuing to climb, as she wants to be near me. I bring her to myself, set her down on my lap, and now she’s looking up at me with angelic smile, soft brown hair, and sparkling brown eyes. Then she speaks to me – what I’ve never forgotten in 25 years -- her exact words were:

“Daddy, daddy, please tell me the story, again, about – how much you loved mommy.”

K. (softly, sighing deeply)

E. These words, and her little face, have haunted me for 25 years.

K. Notice that she says “again.”

E. She sort of emphasized the word "again." This is a favorite topic with her.

K. She's fascinated.

E. It makes her feel good to know that her mommy was specially loved.

K. We talked about this feeling of security, a blessing to children, in "The Wedding Song."

E. Though she’s a baby, she’s already somewhat aware that her parents have a long story to tell about their difficulties in coming together.

K. She senses our energies, our fervency.

E. And this is how she knows.

K. She's already gleaned that it’s unusual, not found among other adults, and she wants to hear the story about it, again and again.

E. She knows certain things by way of contrast with others.

K. She knows that her mommy is exceptionally loved, and perceives, in natural consequence, that her daddy would not give up on her.

E. Are we reading too much into this?

K. Maybe not. Love is Woman's natural domain, and I think we'd be surprised to learn what little girls might sense at a very young age. But, tell me... what is her name?

E. I believe it’s Jessica.

 

More than ten years later, in a department store ad, I happened to come across this photo, and immediately exclaimed to myself, “This is Jessica!” In my deepest soul, I considered this discovery to be a great gift.

 

footnote

an introduction to a speech crafted in a dream

E. There is a principle of self-knowing, of teaching oneself, which is most convincing to us. We might be given a point of wisdom by others, but it is not truly our own, does not reach us at the depths, until we come to it by our own faculties of reason and intuitive powers.

K. You are particularly eloquent just now.

E. These first words, the very words, of my statement were crafted in a dream. I was making a speech before a group, but you were in the audience, and my real reason for speaking was to persuade you.

K. But, Elenchus, I am not hard to reach. I admire what you say… I admire you.

E. Thank you… but, the sentiments of dreams do not lie... part of me is worried that we will not be of one mind… and, if we disagree, then we cannot have “us” and be together… and we’ll forfeit that wonderful life we envision… including baby Jessica.

K. (sighing, whispering) Elenchus… we are going to work this out…

K. Elenchus, can a baby girl arrange for us to see a similitude of herself in a department store ad?

E. Not the baby girl, but the Troubadour Spirit Guides, on her behalf, can make this happen. Recall that the Troubadours were artists, poets, songwriters, and they can concoct creative ways – every which way from Sunday – to get a message across, if they want to.

K. And it’s a custom-crafted message, too, isn’t it. I mean, the every-day world would see an ordinary department store ad, but we might see our whole future come alive.

E. Dearest, it’s a new perception for me, but consider this. You are like the Troubadour Guides with your great love for all things aesthetic. But look at how they use their creative powers in service of the harvest-field mandate. Is this not instructive for your own development, Dear?

K. I hadn’t thought of it in this light before. There is much here for me to consider…

K. Elenchus… I must apologize… I’ve been doing a lot of thinking, and imagining, about Baby Jess… she already seems real to me… but, a terror is settling upon me… What if she doesn’t exist? What if you’re mistaken? Can you say anything to me to offer a word of comfort?

E. Kriss… I don’t want you to worry… this is going to turn out well… because here’s what we know for sure.

K. (sighing) Ok, you’re good at sorting things out and getting to the facts, that’s what I need right now.

E. Let’s go through this, step by step. First, it is well established, by some of the very top afterlife teachers, that couples absolutely can have a family over there. In fact, the Nanji case is actually hailed by some of the best afterlife researchers as most evidential, most authoritative and substantiated, among a very large body of evidence for the afterlife – many thousands of cases. The Nanjis communicated continuously, not just over ten years, but via the Flint direct-voice mediumship, which itself was thoroughly investigated. And the Nanji communications were tape-recorded, dozens of communications.

K. Ok, this is good news.

E. The tape-recordings of Mrs. Nanji on the other side often included her three little ones in the background, and she would relay what they were saying to their dad, and they were real kids, spunky and whiny and impatient, behaving like real kids.

K. (sighing)

E. What does this establish for us? It is not proof that we also have children over there at this moment. But what it does show is that having kids over there is something real and very possible.

K. What happens if Baby Jess is not a real baby right now?

E. Let’s look at the discussion again in the main article. Bringing kids into existence is the primary function of the Family of God. It goes not too far to say that, this is all we do. Children come into being for the purpose of bringing them up to reflect the loving character of Mother-Father God. This is what the Family of God is in business for.

K. Yes, of course.

E. Now, when you and I get to the other side, or the first one of us who gets there, we can find out real quick if Baby Jess actually does already exist. I’m betting she does. But even if she exists “in potentia” right now, only in our minds and hearts as a certainty, I know that we can find the Guides in charge of matters such as this, and we can learn what is required to bring Baby Jess out of the realm of mere “potentia” and into the actualized world of real live kids. I am certain of this.

K. You say that you “know.” This sounds like the apostle Paul with his “arrabon of the Spirit.”

E. That’s exactly what it is.

E. We should talk about Baby Jess again.

K. You’re seeing something new?

E. Something is out of balance.

K. Are you not sure she exists?

E. I’m not totally sure, but, let me say, everything I said earlier is true. I think there is a way to make her real. But, even so, there’s something not quite right.

K. Tell me what you see.

E. I’d like to proceed very carefully here. I don’t want to cause you concern or sorrow. There’s much to consider here. Allow me to state the general rule about having kids in Summerland. For those couples who grieve not having had children while on the Earth, I believe that God has provided a way to heal this “hole in their heart.” From several credible sources, we’ve learned that it's possible to do this.

K. And you had your own dream about this.

E. That dream was 25 years ago, but talking about it now has brought it all to mind in a new and vivid way. It’s caused me to think about it with careful detail.

K. Do you think the baby might not be real?

E. I’m not sure if she is or not, but there are other things for us to consider. Recall, in the main article, there’s testimony from Mary Anne Carew on the other side. As a young mother, dying in childbirth, she was frantic to get back to her family when she arrived in Summerland. Much later, however, with a cooler head, and having been instructed by Spirit Guides, she began to accept that the family institution is largely something for the Earth.

K. What would this mean for us, Elenchus?

E. Summerland is a place where “holes in the heart” are healed. We need this before we are psychologically ready to move on to higher levels of consciousness. And it appears correct to say that couples who have substantially grieved the loss of opportunity to have children while on the Earth will be afforded that blessing in Summerland. But here is where we can fall into a certain delusion.

K. What could be wrong with having children in Summerland, if we’re allowed to?

E. There’s nothing wrong with it, as such; it’s just that, we might be keeping ourselves from something better God has in mind for us.

K. (sighing)

E. Right now you’re a little anxious. You’re like Mary Anne when she first arrived. But she hadn’t thought things through in a best way. Summerland society is not built around the traditional Earth family – a dad, mom, and two kids. Summerland society is built around Twin Soul couples. And Twins may or may not, usually not, I think - they usually don’t have kids in a traditional way.

K. What would be the problem with this?

E. Again, it’s not a problem, as such. But the more I think about it, the more I see that Twins are meant to be engaged in other work in their new Summerland lives. If Twins are mature enough to find each other and to be married, then they’re also mature enough to be of great service to those less mature. They can serve as teachers, or as rescuers in the Dark Realms, and many other higher-order modes of service. And how would this work if we had a little one to care for?

K. But we shouldn’t view her as a burden.

E. I’m not making myself clear. There’s a reason why children are born on the Earth. Overall, it’s better for their character, and they’ll be stronger for it, in the long run. Now maybe Baby Jess will have been born on the Earth, died young, and returned to Summerland. That’s a possibility. But consider this, too. In a great many reports which speak of children in Summerland, very rarely do we see them growing up in a traditional family setting resembling that of the Earth. Instead, most often, a “children’s sphere” or special children’s sector in Summerland is talked about. Babies are cared for there by women, very often, who did not have their own kids on Earth, and this is what they want to do.

K. And I suppose that I could do that if I really wanted to, I could work in the “children’s sphere.”

E. You could do that. You could have a full-time job there. But, if you did that – what about us? I need you to be a full partner with me in various service and teaching activities. If you had your own job, and, in a sense your own life, I’m not sure I see a way for us to begin our Twin Soul marriage.

K. (silence)

E. On the Earth, it’s not unusual for John-and-Mary unions to emphasize their kids too much. Because their marriage is ill-founded, they end up hiding from each other in their “love” for the kids. But when the kids grow up, then the couple often splits, or settles into a disengaged malaise. But this isn’t the worst of it. The kids knew full well that mom and dad didn’t really like each other that much, and so now they have a bad feeling when they recall their childhood home. They don’t want to visit so much because of the bad memories of a home where the parents were not a priority to themselves. Look at it this way. We raise kids so they can be competent and mature to have their own mates and love-life, but if the parents disrespect their own union, then the kids will be damaged and disillusioned.

K. There are many unintended consequences floating about in this whole situation.

E. It occurred to me – look at what was important to Jessica. She wanted to hear stories -- not about fairy tales or animals but -- about the solid love-life of her parents. This made her feel secure and happy. Now what would happen to Jessica if you and I demonstrated the smallest disrespect to our own union? If we lived our lives with disregard to our major Twin Soul duties of service at-large to the greater society, this would affect our union, and Jessica’s radar would pick this negativity up immediately.

K. What should we do, Elenchus? Do we have to abandon our joy of having Jessica?

E. Let’s not rush to any decisions. What we need to do first is to “go within” to find out what our desires are really made of. Do they represent bona fide love for children, or are they false-flag expressions of some inner fear or neediness?

K. I suppose that I’m a little frantic about this is not a good sign.

E. Do not be harsh with yourself. There’s nothing wrong with wanting children. It’s just that, for maturing Twins, we need to ask a larger question: Who are my children? In the New Testament, there’s a report of Jesus, when his mother and siblings were nearby questioning his sanity, he asked his students, who is my mother, who are my siblings? – in other words, who are my real family?

K. We are Twin Souls, commissioned by God to enter the “harvest fields,” to teach the world about God’s ways. And our students will not be so unlike “children” to us. Elenchus, what’s your real feeling concerning Baby Jess?

E. Let’s not make any decisions right now. Let’s wait closer to the time, when we have all the facts. I’m not prepared to give up on her. If she’s real, then I want her, and we will find a way to do this in a good way. The main thing for us, though, is to proceed in a manner that does not reflect an insanity.