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Can a discarnate manipulate matter? – that is, would it be possible for a disembodied spirit to break a pane of glass or smash a vase or to hit somebody? If this is so, why do those who leave the body tend to not inflict violence upon those mortals, the Dear Leaders and their subjects, who torment and brutalize and take peace from the Earth?



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The question posed in the masthead came to me decades ago when I was watching an episode of “Unsolved Mysteries.”

I do not recall many of the details now, but the evidence suggested that a murder victim, lingering near the scene of the crime and also the perpetrator, had malevolently interacted with the criminal.

Later, in the movie "Ghost," we find another case of one who had been killed manipulating matter in an effort to bring a killer to justice.

These examples prompted me to wonder if the so-called dead can, indeed, interact with matter, that is, moving or displacing it.

In my investigations of reports from the other side, I decided to keep a lookout for any evidence which might suggest that this is possible. Eventually, I produced a list of a dozen or more incidents of discarnate spirits manipulating matter in our world.

Among these, I began to notice, most or all of these spirits were in the category of “earthbound.” They had not gone to “the Light” but had associated themselves with certain aspects of the Earth. In popular parlance, we would call them “ghosts.”

As an example, one of these earthbound spirits offered a message through Leslie Flint. She spoke in joking manner of how she, inhabiting or “haunting” a house, could smash a vase, if she so desired.

If a spirit could smash a vase, then, theoretically, it should be possible to do much more. And given the state of the world, overrun just now by Dear Leaders with their totalitarian efforts to enslave, I wondered why the “good” spirits on the other side did not do something to stop them.

Like the criminal in “Ghost,” those who torment the world could be attacked by the “good spirits” with material objects in order to prevent them from tyrannizing the world. Why doesn’t this occur?

In the story of Franchezzo, featured on the “Dark Realms” page, we find him engaged in missionary efforts in “hell.” In the course of his travels, he and the Guides would, at times, create a force-field of protection, but we do not see them attacking or inflicting violence upon the vicious ones in the Dark Realms, even though the Guides' superior power could easily overwhelm them.

One of the lessons Franchezzo was given to learn during his “tour of duty” as a missionary is that any attitude of revenge or desire to inflict violence upon the criminals in dark places will immediately cause a negative reaction in the minds of the missionaries.

Any effort toward retribution or vengeance will create a kind of bond, an energy of affinity, with an evil one. To enter into this kind of negativity begins to entrap the “good spirit” making it difficult or impossible to break away and return to a better environment. You’ll want to read more about this in the accounts of Franchezzo.

Is it possible for a discarnate to manipulate matter, break a pane of glass, or even push a mortal around? The answer seems to be yes, but if one were to do this, it appears that the one engaging in this kind of activity will become entrapped in that act of violence.

From what we’ve learned about the nature of “ghosts,” it appears that these disembodied spirits feel that they have unfinished business on the Earth. They do not want to go to “the Light.” They do not trust God that all will yet be made right. In a spirit of vigilantism, they see themselves as needing to complete a task of justice, or possibly, to seek for vengeance against someone who did them wrong during their Earth time. But, when they do this, they become trapped in the negative energies of the Earth and find it very difficult to leave.

The hero of the “Ghost” movie saved his girl and led a criminal to his just desserts, and then we saw him leaving for “the Light.” In reality, however, he might not have been able to exit so easily. And, of course, there would be a natural desire to save a loved one - however, from a larger cosmic perspective, are retributive acts the proper way of doing this?

What is going on with all this? Why does it work this way?

From the experience of Franchezzo, plus many other accounts featured on the WG site, we begin to discern that God and the senior Guides orchestrate a grand educational experience for all of us. We are to learn, with a depth of understanding, that the ways of the ego and of evil will not bring us happiness.

To this end, they employ a policy of laissez-faire management; or, as Emperor Claudius had it, “let all the poisons in the mud hatch out.”

This seems to be part of natural law. And if one endeavors to interfere with this natural educational process unfolding in the universe, one finds him or herself subjected to negative energies.


“Let all the poison that lurks in the mud, hatch out.”

I, Claudius by Robert Graves, a 1976 BBC production 


Emperor Claudius, in the stage production, near the end of his life, is given to say, “Let all the poison that lurks in the mud, hatch out.”

His view would take the long road home toward justice and equitable society; in the meantime, he thought it best for all unhatched viper eggs in Rome to manifest, to play themselves out, to reveal their duplicitous natures, allowing all to see what they’re really made of. Wisdom will be found in the unveiling.

It would appear that God has adopted a philosophy of “Let all the poison that lurks in the mud, hatch out.” As we look at the world, we see the eggs hatching out everywhere, and no divine force swoops in to circumvent.

But not all agree with this laissez-faire management practice. They would prefer intervention and a ready tidiness of all unseemliness in the world.

This latter group, as we’ve discussed, believes in “kumbaya" help for the world. They want to direct people’s conduct without addressing the underlying cause of trouble, the egoic mind.

In Charlotte Dresser’s book…


featured on the “Sensibility: 1-Minute” page, we find these two opposed philosophies represented in the reports from the other side. Here is a typical “kumbaya” philosophy:

“We wish to affirm our belief that a new era, a new power, is coming to earth in the unfolding and renewing of spirit life through communication from this side. We are watching with longing eyes for nearness to us of earth friends, for renewing, or rather creating, spirit knowledge on that side. For we believe that if this life could be rightfully understood, and the knowledge acquired there that the earth life is only a preparatory existence, that life would then become a more important, a more beautiful experience.”

Notice – from this camp we typically find talk of a “new era” coming, utopia just around the corner, more knowledge will be available soon, and we’ll see the Earth responding positively, taking us to a new golden age. We're still waiting for that golden age, because right now we're on the brink of a new totalitarian dark age.

They see no value in all the poisonous eggs hatching out. What they miss is that, when the eggs hatch out, and all of the ego’s plans come to nothing, there is great value in disillusionment; for now, there will be the possibility, of one’s own accord, of choosing a better path, having tried everything else. When dealing with beings with free choice, there seems to be no other way of bringing them to maturity; unpleasant as the process is.

Notice the contrasting philosophy now, also from Dresser's book, expressing what I consider to be a more enlightened view:

'have to go through the fires of criminality'

“The mystery of life there as well as here is almost beyond understanding. But the more we study it the clearer and more beautiful it grows. Do not be disheartened if you do not comprehend it in entirety. No one of us has arrived at that point yet. But take the blessings, yes, even the trials that come, knowing that all are in the way of education and progress. Can you not see already some of the beneficent effects of trial, disappointment and loss?”

Sis: “The wicked ones have trials and sorrows also, but it seems to do them no good?”

“Perhaps not as you see it. But sinners have to go through the fires of criminality, sin and sorrow sometimes before purification or advancement comes. Cause and effect. Cause and effect. That is progress,—or that is the way to progress. No effort is lost.”

Yes, all this evil sprouting in the world seems to be doing no good; and yet, as people take themselves through "the fires of criminality, sin and sorrow," a purification or advancement eventually manifests.

And this, too: "No effort is lost." It would seem that evil is such a waste of time, and the long road home, but, from a higher perspective, it's the shortest possible distance to our maturity, given the element of free will that needs to be accounted for.

And so, we reluctantly allow, "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out."

Editor's note: See the article "Why The World Doesn't Need Superman," that is, why God allows suffering in the world. 




Editor's last word:

I had been thinking about this question for a long time, some years, in fact; but, one morning, arising from a dream, I perceived a certain clarity. This writing issued as a result of that dream.